Interview by R. Redeen with Param Sant Kirpal Singh
Question: What's the explanation of the different colours of lights that are seen in meditation?
Answer by Kirpal Singh: No book will give you, I tell you. But there is a reason for it, there 's reason for it. That depends on the inner development, backgrounds, some dominating attributes in his life, you see. That's the cause of all the different colours. So, yellow, golden light is spiritual; pure white light is also…, this is spiritual; red light, you willfind, where at least there 's some pushing attitude. These are different stages, different colours, different sounds also.
Question: Are they different lights for different people or are they the same progression of lights for everybody?
Answer: Those who have got background, they go up -further. Those who have to start, there's a regular way. They will see the sky; they'll see stars, the big star, then transcend it; then moon comes, then transcend it. Those who have got the background, they start all at once from there – that's it.
Question: Yes, I'm just thinking, every morning in here, when we meet, everybody seems, sees various lights and ah, we seem to be about on the same level, many of us.
Answer: (not clear: there are samples). Some they know. There is one who sees two Masters, Master Sawan Singh (Interruption from the interviewer: That, of course, is beyond most of us). Not Beyond. I get letters [saying Master appears within]. Of those who are regular, they have it. They talk too.
Question: Blue light, the blue light, you didn't touch on that. Everybody seems to see the blue light. What's that?
Answer: That's the first – a loving attitude. You see. The picture of Lord Krishna, blue, you see, yellow, blue, that's light, I mean golden light, these are three. Outer form you see. His face is blue, ropes are yellow. That's showing the combination of different developments.
Question: So, so really when you start to meditate, you should try to get at that golden light as rapidly as possible?
Answer: You cannot visualize, you see. That comes of itself. When you reach that plane, naturally that point comes, but that is (as I told you), that is where Master's form manifests.
Question: And, and these lights just seem to stay for a short time. Will that increase as time goes by?
Answer: By regular practice, regular practice and that time is increased only, the longer you can stay in whatever you see, continuously without break. The more progress will also be there.
excuse but
Kirpal singh simply was not a master nor a sant, and neither was Sawan Singh, by his own accounts, although he was indeeda Sant, but not of ythe degree that his Master, Babuji Maharaj was in his time…..many include kirpal in Sant Mat schools, but myself i prefer to keep things real, and he simply wasnt as accomplished as he claimed to have been…
Thank you
~~~ for your kind interest and commentary. I, in truth, tend to agree about Kirpal Singh but decided it was best to present this as the author wrote it for copyright sake.The contemporary movement of Sant Mat has taken liberties.
I was looking for opinion as well on the colours and was disappointed that not more was spoken of regarding the accompaniment of sound to them.
BABUJI!!!!
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"I hear the sound of tinkling bells …"
برکات خدا
Salaam
a different Babuji
i should have been more specifc as Babuji Maharaj is a common name…Madhav Prasad Sinha, in the lineage of Shiv Dayal Singh who started Radhasoami…here is the line of descendancy and a few pictures:
Babuji:
also, on the topic…
there are some interesting discussions between David Lane ( the guy who wrote a book "exposing" Eckankar as a scam, or so he thought, and Doug Marman, who not only engaged in debate with him about Paul Twitchell, but who has written and discovered materials relevant to Radhasoami and Sant Mat, himself at one point being a chela of the Beas lineage….this page reveals some interesting facts about Sawan Singh and Kirpal Singh:
http://dlane5.tripod.com/dougrs.html
and here is a bit about the book Mr. Marmon wrote, including excerpts:
http://www.spiritualdialogues.com/WholeTruth_Excerpt.pdf
Yes many many Babujis!
Thank you again for this information! What do you think of the guy I posted?
http://www.radhasoami-faith.info/Babuji_Maharaj.shtml
There are recordings here.
he is good
and btw Sahaj or Sehaj is affiliated with Sri Ram Chandra of Shajahanpur and means natural, original or innate….to the Sikhs the word is used to describe God realization…